Silver ZL1 at Future Classics?

[Norm reynolds]

As far as Future Classics sooner or later some one WILL shut them down its NOT bashing
its getting the word out DO NOT BUY A CAR FROM THEM

[paul1969]

Hi Rob,

To be completely honest, I found the L-89 to be absolutely gorgeous and my favorite color combo to boot. It was a very well restored car. That's why I said nothing about the workmanship involved in the resto. The car was beautiful. The Z-28 I saw on the showroom floor did not have a houdstooth interior, it had a standard interior and was not worth the asking price to me. I have however seen quite a few black Z's on his floors, both RS's and not. They come and go as quickly as you and I are talking despite what I feel to be GOD awful high prices. Everytime I walk in the door, I am very skeptical as to the cars I see. I am this way because I've been involved in one instance myself and have had the displeasure of seeing cars that are not real SS's being offered as real SS's. This is something I know about because I own two SuperSport Rally Sports. One big-block and one small block (originally). I've also spent more than enough time in and under them to know what a good resto is and isn't. I can honestly say that out of all the Camaros I've seen on his lot, very few have really peeked my interest. The siver ZL-1 was one that peaked my interest. I found the car to be beautiful and restored in a fashion that was becoming of a car of it's status. I didn't like the fact that a few of the Camaros at that time had engine compartments that were painted in one color black and cowl tags that looked as though they had a fresh coating of Krylon semi-flat black. It made me downright uncomfortable to say the least and skeptical too. After having the orange SS shown to me way back when and being told by the salesman that it was a factory big-block, Yes, once again I remain skeptical because I have been on the floor and talked to in person. As for the tags, I never said that it was the owners of the dealerhip that were responsible. For all I know, it might be the people who sell the cars to the dealer, inorder to get top dollar for their cars. I often put myself in the owners position and ask myself what I could do to prevent this from happening if it was indeed the peoples greed and foul play. Well, I would hire someone or learn the facts needed to purchase a correct car. If I bought a clone, I would personally sell it as one. If I buy a car that is stated as being something that it isn't, shame on me and shame on the seller if he or she was aware of it. If I was to purchase my second car for top dollar and it wasn't what it was stated to be, shame on me!! I would not however resell it as the real thing. This is where I would mark the line. I would chalk it up as an expensive lesson and do my best to prevent it from happening again. I would tend to think that after this much bologne with clones and such, the dealers and customers would be that much more skeptical about the things that they purchase. Well, from what I read on the internet, it doesn't appear so. I don't believe it will considering the amount of money involved. Let's be realsistic about this, I've heard and talked to more than one person about questionable cars on the lot. I have no doubts as to the possible validity of the complaints. I'm just lucky enough to be one of the many that has not had the money in pocket to go out and purchase at times. It could have been me at the lawyers office. I am biased and I have no problem with people knowing it. ROB, I really want to thank you for the reply to straighten things out. I understand your actions much better than I did before and I hope you understand mine. All is well!! Sincerely sorry for any misunderstandings, Paul

[T Billigen]

The best thing to do is not buy a car at one of these places no matter what the documentation is, once they get a bad reputation it will ruin the value of the car down the road. When you try to sell the car and a prospective buyer finds you bought it at a "classic car dealer" they may tend to shy away, I know I would! Try to buy a car off a private owner if you can or buy a car that you can trace the origin, if it needs restoration get it done by a reputable restorer, which there are a couple that frequent this site.(my opion)

[Steve Shauger]

I wonder what the original protecto plate for the cloned L89 convertible is worth. It documents the car as a 327 210 hp powerglide car with a 307 non posi rear car. Mint condition all #'s matching. Seriously, if someone needs it, I may be able to get you in contact with the person that has it.

[Norm reynolds]

T Billigen is right just heard the camaro internet 3/16/02 show Jerry Mac Neish was on and said that a guy in Cal bought a car from a dealer in new jersey that has changed names and HAS a history of selling fraudulent cars he went on to say that that new owner did not have Jerry look at the car before he bought the car when he got the car the cars motor did not run right the brakes did not work and all the numbers were played with.now it will cost more money for a law sute than Jery whould charge to look at it in the first place he said that people should do there home work before looking to buying a car. show was great
Norm

[Steve Shauger]

I believe the car was sold at Atlantic was sold by the owner not the dealer. The level at which the car was cloned, would make it virtually impossible to detect. Broach mark and stamping fonts are reproduced perfectly now. The corvette people now call restamped blocks "restoration blocks". I doubt the "experts" could have detected this restamp...they have been fooled before!

[Norm reynolds]

The car that Jerry Mac Neish was sold at a dealer not atlantic city he stated thet the restamped was very very poor