Red '70 Deuce

[tom406]

That red car brought in excess of $40K? White stripes add $15K+ to the value? I'm stunned. And you guys all said color changes were bad....

[NWYENKO]

Dave, I am confused. Are you saying the red deuce brought in excess of $40k? I guess that is a good news, bad news thing for me!! I guess I should have held on longer (the bad news part), it makes the Blue Deuce look lik a LOT better deal (the good news part). Congrats to Gary if what you say is true. Gary and I got to meet and talk at the auctions in Az.which I thoroughly enjoyed. Tom, we need to talk about updating those appraisals!!!! Jim

[Edited by NWYENKO (02-23-2002 at 09:01 AM).]

[Edited by NWYENKO (02-23-2002 at 09:15 AM).]

[tom406]

With all due respect to the new owner, I wouldn't appraise the red car for $40K unless somebody held a loaded gun to my head.

I will say that Mr. Holub is in a unique position to get that kind of coin. I think of it as the "halo" effect of a nice collection. When enough visitors are intoxicated by the quality and size of a desirable collection, a few people will pay up to get a piece of it, even if its one of the lesser players. (You and I have seen this phenomenon in effect locally, have we not, Jim?)

Finally, the conspiracy theorist in me has to ask if a third party can verify all this. After all, Marlin has named a theory after Mr. Holub about how every Yenko sale must be reported to be higher than the purchase price, whatever the reality. And it must be said that (yenko) supported this theory in that semi-nasty Yenko Deuce perceived-value thread a while back. This red Deuce was apparently becoming the black sheep of the Yenko Marketplace, with its last purchase reportedly occuring as a strategic buy to curtail public sales of Deuces at the "too low" price of $25K.

I hope my tone isn't too argumentative. I'm probably a little defensive, because this scenario makes it look like our dealership left our customer's money on the table.

So anyway, lets keep this thread constructive. If anyone needs to send me some hate mail, do it via the post office the way its supposed to be, on blank paper covered with letters cut out of magazines. (Not Muscle Car Review though, they don't make those anymore!)

You are right TOM406, it does sound a little defensive. Whatever the reason, the car brought the coin. As far as a third person to verify sale price, I take that as an attack on my credibility. I actually helped you prepare to sell this car, and did hook Gary up with you for the sale. I also indicated your location, in my opinion, was not ideal. Timing is everything. The car was not even for sale when Gary sold it. No need to be sour and come up with allegations. I am simply making members aware of a transaction.

[tom406]

I apologize for the challenge on your credibility, Dave. These barbed jabs are much easier in person than in the faceless confines of the internet. At any rate, this issue certainly isn't of enough consequence to get angry over, much less make enemies.

For the record, this whole "theory" business rubs me wrong. To me, there's only two answers to "How much did it sell for?" The actual price, and "NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS". Either is correct, and honorable, depending on the situation. I use them both, and I use them often, working for a dealer and all.

Anyway, Dave, if you are stating that any figure you're generous enough to share with the board is the real deal, I'll gladly accept that and lay off the "challenges". (And I believe the car wasn't actively "for sale", as that's the hands-down best way to minimize negotiations and maximize prices.)

I hope that takes care of my bad karma, and I can go to bed now.....

I am in agreement Tom. Gary's collection does definitely add to any asking price. You get mesmerized, then go for your wallet! Been there, done that!