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Well, I think 70 COPO hit the nail on the head saying that the Honda B-series is today’s small block Chevy. The number of aluminum winged fart can sporting "ricers" on the streets is pretty disgusting... mostly driven by clueless 16 year-olds. On the other hand some really do run - and it’s not that expensive to do if you know what you are doing. I am sure that 35 years ago you had your share of "ricers" - teens who got stuck with 6-cyl Camaro's and tried to "fix them up" to join the crowd. But to get back on topic - I think that regardless of what we drive, we do this for the same reasons you guys did years ago. And I think that 20-30 years down the road people my age will be looking for cars that bring back the past. Like it or not - this import thing really is huge - And I think demand may be high in 20-30 years for some of these cars. Here, check out this video - ignore that the cars are Hondas, and tell me this does not bring back memories for you guys... Garage footage
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Mark Hassett JR. 94 Civic 10.82 @ 134 99 Corvette 11.7 @ 125 |
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Owned a syclone truck a few years ago was a fast truck. How about the 1990-1993 454 SS trucks. IMO
---------- Ron 1978 Bill Mitchell Turbo Camaro 1969 Chevelle SS 396 1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS-5 1970 Chevelle Conv. 1990 454 SS Truck 1996 Impala SS 2000 Corvette Conv. 1994 Corvette Conv. 1995 Camaro Z28 just bought |
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Regarding the photo, the '68 BB Camaro* would cost at least 20 grand to duplicate. That late-model SS Chevy truck is 40 grand new, minimum. The "ricer" in the middle is about 10-15 grand. You do the math.
(*I recognize this car as Mr. Hassett's B-M car, worth what, a quarter million? Building a strong BB Camaro is in the 20K range, probably more.) |
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The number of aluminum winged fart can sporting "ricers" on the streets is pretty disgusting... mostly driven by clueless 16 year-olds. [/ QUOTE ] I must respectfully disagree with the word "disgusting." "Clueless" is probably appropriate in many cases. Car-nut kids are doing what they've always done, and that's trying to go fast, make noise, and have fun with their cars. How many of us used to laugh at the kid with a six-cylinder Nova with mags and a glasspack blatting away? How about '60s Impalas with dual Cherry Bombs rapping and popping and scaring little children? Fart-canned Hondas serve the very same need: go fast (well, fast-ish), make noise, have fun. "Ricers" are the most affordable way to do that today. Five grand for a decent Honda, fifty bucks for a fart-can muffler, and have a buddy lower it. Maybe score a used wing to bolt on the trunk and it's boy-racer all over again. "SSDD"--Same Stuff, Different Day. If a kid today could score a nice '67 327 Camaro with a 4-speed and Posi for five grand (I said a NICE one, not a roach) I'll bet he'd choose the Camaro over the Honda. Again, it's the math. Another thing to consider with "ricers" is that you rarely need to open the hood. Cars have gotten so reliable (and hard to work on) that the hood can stay closed between oil changes. They also scoot around town just as quickly as any Camaro or Mustang yet the "ricers" use a lot less gas. All the old guys brag about spending fifty cents on a gallon gas for their '55 Chevy and they could cruise all night. Well today, that same ratio of expenditure exists for Hondas that get 35 MPG. Math, math, math. Why "ricers?" Simple economics. |
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This is interesting...
KBB 94 Z28 and 94 Civic my parents bought a 94 Z, think the sticker was around 22,000. The Civic should have been ~12,000... and today its only worth 500 less than the Camaro. Actually, in a few more years and I would like to buy back my 96 Z (first car) I should be able to... for cheap.
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Mark Hassett JR. 94 Civic 10.82 @ 134 99 Corvette 11.7 @ 125 |
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It's refreshing to hear an honest opintion - not some biased crap. Much respect 427TJ
![]() Also I looked this summer, I WANTED to buy a 68 or 69 Camaro if I could have found decent bodied one for around 10-15,000. Unfortunatly though, not too many people my age see things that way anymore.
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Mark Hassett JR. 94 Civic 10.82 @ 134 99 Corvette 11.7 @ 125 |
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69 Z28 JL8, #'s match - being restored |
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1979 hurst olds are still under priced will be worth a nice amount of $$$ someday
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I agree with you young Mr. Hassett. I have 4 boys ranging from 18 to 27. They all like my 69 Z/28 but would never really want to buy one. My one son is in the auto parts business and he tells me he will beat me all day with a rice burner. When my kids look back on their youth it won't be the cars there fathers drove. It will be rice, Cavaliers and Neons. That is the way it is. I also predict that you will be able to buy these very expensive muscle cars we have today a lot more reasonable 25 years from now. I may be wrong, but I don't think any of my guys or their friends will spend 500,000 for a hemi cuda or 300,000 for a ZL1. I don't think the Japnese cars have much collectability but I don't think my kids generation much cares about that. They just want to go fast! Sam
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I would like to stash an '87 Buick GNX, and an '89 TTA - both would be nice, but either will do. There is a GNX in this months Hemmings with 500 miles on it for $42k, TTA's can be had for less than half that and will beat the GNX 1-2 out of 3.
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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