1969 Pacecar , A few production Questions

[pacecar]

Thanx Paceme , that made for some interesting reading,, A side from the copo , Would you consider this rarest of the rare as there is no way to really tell how many were produced.
At least as far as a 100 % factory built 69 Camaros built.

Thanks again pace car

[pacecar]

Another question,,,was the pace car a mid year introduction,I have the can dealership catolog papers , it doesn,t list anything about a pacecar,,

Something I find a little hard to believe is some 1 said earlier that there wasn,t any known pacecars to canada or any exported models known,,,you mean to tell me that in the mean muscle car days of 69 no 1 in Canada wanted 1 of the nicest cars ever factory produced, I know there were some copo cars for Canada and a fair amount of Z28 s for Canada.
No 1 has documented a pacecar from Canada.

somethings wrong with this picture. If I wasn,t 8 years old at the time I would have ordered 1 of these.

Just my 2 cents worth guys, and keep in mind that I know like 5 percent of what some of you guys know,,,no disrespect intended to any 1 .and hope no 1 takes it that way .

pace car.

[rpoz11]

No, Pacecars were actually started into production I would say about January, if not December, But I doubt it! I dont think there may have been any VIN assinged until January, so I guess I myself need clarification on this.
Canada, well....I am unsure as to any Canadian entries into that race but there might have been. But I would say that the INDY 500 was an American race at that time, and I believe that this probably wasnt such a nationally devoted Replica order of the PaceCars for Canada. NOW: I MIGHT BE WRONG! Maybe we can have a short discussion on that here...

[pacecar]

Thanx RPOZ11 , I guess your right but I have seen a fair amount of pace cars in canada,( 80 s Camaros )
Is there a registry for Canadian Z ers /copos/and others for 67-68-69 ?????
If not we should get 1 happening , could only help with getting a better picture of what the true production numbers really are ( at least a wider vision ) ????

thanx Pacecar

[rpoz11]

A registry for Canadian cars, Not that I am aware of (other than the COPOS listed here on sYc)...My dates of January might also be a bit premature for VIN assignments on these, I go but my recollection on those Ive seen over the years...

[njsteve]

Z11 Pace Car production began on 02D, the fourth week of Feb 1969, at the Norwood, Ohio Assembly Plant. My car, VIN 610XXX was a factory display car and was built on 02D and shipped from the Norwood plant on 03/11/1969. Dealers were told of the existance of the Z11 package in mid-January 1969.

There were a number of Z11s sent to Canada. I recall looking at a 396 automatic Z11 in 2001 in Canada that had its GM of Canada documentation. I didnt buy it because it was a horrible restoration: they actually welded new quarters on top of the old ones - just horrible I drove 16 hours with a trailer, took one look for about 15 seconds and turned around and drove back home, another 16 hours. I was not a happy camper at the time.

[SamLBInj]

"I drove 16 hours with a trailer, took one look for about 15 seconds and turned around and drove back home, another 16 hours. I was not a happy camper at the time."
I wish I had a buck for every one of those trips.

[Mark_C]

First one I know about is 02D VIN N607547, which is prior to the two real pacecars. This is what it looked like about a year ago.

[ProdigyCustoms]

I am trying to get my hands on the Original USCC REGISTRY. Maybe I can get with Kurt and add his to it. We had a few hundred cars, and the numbers we posted were total speculation, derived from the 10% sampling we had.
Hopefully the original registry is not destroyed.

[Mark_C]

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Ok, so that will support my summation of 200-300 made with the 396 , then you have to break it down by transmission! So, Mark C., where do you get your 1000 # from???

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The 1000 came from the fact I have info on 267 Z11's (drivelines, VIN, trim tags etc.) and 59 of them are big blocks which makes the big block percentage around 18 to 20 percent of this total. There are another 25 that the original engine is unknown and the rest are L48's. There are 3 L89's, 4 L78's and the rest are split between L35's and L34's.

Of course since thats less then 10 percent of the total original population the numbers could be skewed, but unless someone has better data I'm sticking with that figure as the upper limit.