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Old 11-05-2020, 06:30 PM
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JP, I am a Luddite! Still have my flip phone and use a key to open my car (no fob).

Is it the future? How far are we talking about? 5 to 10 years? No - I don't see it as anything more than a curiosity. 15 to 20 years? Sure. By then all of us Baby Boomers will be gone.



That's a great question Lee! I couldn't tell you what the time frame is but I do think that although change is difficult at times, this (or something like it) is coming sooner rather than later.



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Old 11-05-2020, 06:03 PM
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I would not ever want or have anything to do with a classic car, especially a muscle car, with an EV engine. I wouldn't take one if someone gave me one for free. To me the whole idea of a classic or muscle car is that it is as close as possible to like it was originally.
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Old 11-05-2020, 06:23 PM
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I would not ever want or have anything to do with a classic car, especially a muscle car, with an EV engine. I wouldn't take one if someone gave me one for free. To me the whole idea of a classic or muscle car is that it is as close as possible to like it was originally.

Although not in total disagreement with your thought, I ask this. What if, for conversations sake, we start to see these "conversions" a bit more? Leaving out the ultra high end examples, what if a entry level Mustang, Camaro, vette etc were converted?



From there we then see a "new" generation of enthusiasts and owners driving "stock looking" classics on the street. Would the visibility of these "classics" not further the hobby and with that, the stock examples?



Does a "Restomod" accomplish the same thing?


I get it, it's not the same as original, but wouldn't a rising tide raise all the boats?


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Old 11-06-2020, 08:55 PM
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Although not in total disagreement with your thought, I ask this. What if, for conversations sake, we start to see these "conversions" a bit more? Leaving out the ultra high end examples, what if a entry level Mustang, Camaro, vette etc were converted?



From there we then see a "new" generation of enthusiasts and owners driving "stock looking" classics on the street. Would the visibility of these "classics" not further the hobby and with that, the stock examples?



Does a "Restomod" accomplish the same thing?


I get it, it's not the same as original, but wouldn't a rising tide raise all the boats?


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I can only speak for myself. For me personally I would never own or drive any car like a Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, etc. with an electric motor, factory installed or aftermarket installed. I would never want or own a Restomod either. I would agree that as more conversions happen it might raise the interest in the car hobby. I would support others doing conversions to EV motors if that is what they wanted to do. Again as for me I would only ever get an electric car if the government mandated them, and if I was still able to drive safely. I would buy a factory electric car like a Tesla, Bolt, etc. I certainly would not
convert any ICE car to an electric one.

Thanks for asking your questions and causing others to think about things like this.
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I would not ever want or have anything to do with a classic car, especially a muscle car, with an EV engine. I wouldn't take one if someone gave me one for free. To me the whole idea of a classic or muscle car is that it is as close as possible to like it was originally.

Took the words right out of my mouth, or day (4)2 mods for better braking and handling. I'm still not over all the younger people desecrating our classics and muscle cars with LSX engines, let alone electric. Wait till I'm dead and then butcher them all they want...
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Before these are mandated, somebody better think about where all the electricity is coming from, and where are the materials and capital equipment coming from to manufacture all these batteries. Also where do the used batteries go?
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Not to mention all the people who are on the "zero emissions" bandwagon. Uh, do the batteries recharge themselves ?? Doesn't the process of making electricity create emissions ?
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I don't see the change being voluntary. I see it coming from government mandates as most changes happen, when it comes to cars.

There is a major issue when it comes to EVs: logistics. As of the last Census (2010) 30% of the US population are renters. How can they purchase an EV with no way to charge it? Apartment complex owners aren't going to voluntarily spend the billions of dollars to equip their sites with charging stations let alone the upgrade to 200 amp service panels to support them.

People love convenience. EVs are anything but.

Currently EVs are nothing more than a novelty. Their sales are minuscule:

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I don't see the change being voluntary. I see it coming from government mandates as most changes happen, when it comes to cars.

There is a major issue when it comes to EVs: logistics. As of the last Census (2010) 30% of the US population are renters. How can they purchase an EV with no way to charge it? Apartment complex owners aren't going to voluntarily spend the billions of dollars to equip their sites with charging stations let alone the upgrade to 200 amp service panels to support them.

People love convenience. EVs are anything but.

Currently EVs are nothing more than a novelty. Their sales are minuscule:




All great points Lee. I agree that this would have to be mandated from the top. Your info regarding rentals is of interest as well and well stated. The new EV's do come with a charging pack that can be plugged into a standard home outlet. (although it would take longer to charge)


Of course, this is all for conversation here as I also am conflicted as to the viability, at least in the short term for these.


I'm just wondering what other like minded enthusiasts think and what better place to ask than here!




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