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-----Thanks Sam,,,You may have said it better than me.....Bill S
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Sam, your car was waaaaaaaaaaay better than this one IMO. I would like to know the guys name. I worked at Limerick Power Plant for a few years in that time frame myself. Never really liked full blown resto's much at all if at all possible. If you can get away with a real nice repaint and a good elbow grease frame and chassis clean up with some interior stitching I am real happy with that. Way more original with 100,000 miles on the clock than a 3-4,000 mile car would be with a frame up, total replacement. BUT again, JMO and I ain't changin!
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What a beuty! Love the color combo! WOW!
But I agree 100% with some of the responses. Its been restored so the miles really mean nothing except for something fun to talk about. Plus he is obviously wanting a monster premium because of the miles. Sure it has some nice history. But the reality is, once restored its just another nicely restored Z and there is not a thing in the world wrong with that. I always get a kick out of sellers that talk low miles on something that is showroom fresh. But I am sure he will get someone with big pocket book that will get caught up in this.
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I doubt he gets any offers near what he wants.I think people are alot more TUNED IN these days. I will adnit it is a nice looking car in pictures.I too wish i could read the address on the old title. I would like to know where it was from. I grew up on front street and delaware ave and remember a few rare and cool camaros but do not remember see this one run. Id like to know what ever happened to the 67 L78 pace car camaro that ran its ass off and wanted to sell it for 7500 and we all thought he was crazy!
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I think what would be cool is if this car is such a low mile car, the original motor is still at the original bore. It would represent something that is rare, and matches to me how the engine was found (or supposidly found). It would vindicate the mileage. That is hard to duplicate. I do think maybe there is a reason it has such low miles (like the engine was blown or the original owner never came back from vietnam, etc). It was a street raced car and we all know what can happen (plus a young kid owned it). Or the engine was taken out and put in another car.
The odometer looks correct (no white lines, so no sign of rollback). Generally you will see discoloration of numbers that were left in a certain position for years of sitting). My 4k mile hemi gtx has that (it sat outside in the midwest for a little while). I am sure this car rolled a little bit since restored, and I am not seeing any discoloration in any of the low numbers. Who ever buys this should have it roll forward a bit to see some of the lower 2 numbers start to look fresher. |
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Good luck getting that price or even $100K for that car. If it was original untouched it might bring top dollar, but in that condition it is just another nice 69 restored Z/28. I'm guessing take $110K off the $169K price. I see issues and things that are wrong.
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Does anybody know if the story of the cross ram being delivered with the car is right and am I reading that the car was built with the steel cross ram hood from the factory? To me that would make it very special if it could be verified. The only car I thought was close to that story was the Carolina blue 69 Z/28 with the white stripes that went to the ground. This car would be special for that reason but $169k is allot of money now days.
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$169,000 is good money for a COPO these days let alone a Z/28.
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Did you see the green 69 COPO on team Camaro that was a drag car from day one for $85k?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 92646</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anybody know if the story of the cross ram being delivered with the car is right and am I reading that the car was built with the steel cross ram hood from the factory? To me that would make it very special if it could be verified. The only car I thought was close to that story was the Carolina blue 69 Z/28 with the white stripes that went to the ground. This car would be special for that reason but $169k is allot of money now days.</div></div>
This car did not come with a cross ram or steel c/r hood from the factory. If this were a factory option it would be designated on the window sticker, similiar to how a 67& 68 Z optioned with either the cowl plenum, headers or both were identified. As far as the added value of low mileage on a restored car brings (for me)I would say it really depends on the condition prior to the resto and what "orig" parts could be reused. As I pointed out before if the pitted engine pad and damaged trim tag are any indication of the condition of the car prior to resto I doubt I would pay a "premium". To me a premium on a restored low mileage car should be associated with what could be reused and original to the car. Orig sheetmetal, components(shock, smog, tires, interior, chrome...) I would want to see before, during and after. Correctly restored cars are worth a premium, but the low mileage premium has many variables. Remember the no mileage 57 Plymouth that was buried and opened recently...What premium would you attach to that car due to its mileage and what could be reused when restoring.....
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