Anyone know of a Fathom Blue '68 DICK HARRELL Chevelle?

[Denis]

Charley, I think you get more mileage out of that mutt than all of us put together with our cars

[Denis]

Dan, Kevin feels compelled to explain himself because of your earlier postings, e.g.:

"Jeff,sorry to here you got screwed...since your not in this elite,secreted ,wads of money group...people play their stupid little games."

"I've seen NICB mention by a collector of rare muscle cars...I will call my friend tommorrow and tell them the NICB is for the rich and famous and it exist for the chosen few."

"...maybe we could help other people to find imformation they wouldn't normally no how to get, or why bother their not SUPERCARS."

[Edited by Denis (10-23-2001 at 10:30 PM).]

[Charley Lillard]

Denis...There are 5 different Mutts and they all resemble some members of this web site ...or their Children.....That one looks like Belair I think.........

[bkhpah]

I have been to Seattle and the first time I was there I met Kevin and he invited me to his home. He really didn't know me or my friend, but we were invited anyway. He was a complete gentleman and gave us the full tour of his home and cars. We never felt intimidated, just welcome. It is a grand collection to be sure. Kevin has been to my home as well and I have been with him at other events and he and his family have never been anything but splendid. It is disturbing that some people will condemn without any real facts. It is happening all to often on this site. I along with many others have tried to give the facts out on topics without any nonsence. I have been as calm as I can be about some of the things that have been said to me and others on this board. I have had times I just will not post because of the way the thread is moving. This is my favorite site to visit. I hope that we can all keep it that way. There is a lot of knowledge behind the keypads out there. I just hope we can continue to share it...BKH

[MikeA]

Charley,

How about a group picture of your mutt collection.

Mike

[Charley Lillard]

I'm not sure you could handle it.

[bowtie3168]

I have to say that I was not really surprised about the way that this post turned out. I could see where it was going after how it started with the negative comment (that turned me off) "don't even ask". I don't want your VIN# but, don't ask a question and insult us by implying that there is a lack of trust especially when you are the one asking for help. I always worry about how a group can experience a complete change over infighting. I do not wish to contribute more towards this fight but there was a comment made that I felt that I needed to address, Dan said something in reference to "adding this to Profiles" I want to know if that was a direct "dig" to one of my previous posts. If it is, then let your feelings be known, say it, if not, then I took it the wrong way. I like knowing who I am talking to. If I post something,work on a project,or build something then I put my name on it so people know who they are dealing with. I expect that from myself and I expect that from people that I deal with. I noticed that this negative post originated from a new forum poster who did not list anything about him/herself(s) and I have a problem with that. If somebody wishes to come on this forum and ask a question then I feel that they should let us know who is asking the question. This board is comprised of a group of friends who love this hobby, it is not a "hit and run"or a "get some extra info" and leave" bulletin board. If someone has this negative view ,well, feel free to leave any time the spirit moves you to do so. We don't need that kind of attitude here.I just want to remind all of the core members not to give up and quit because of some fly-by-nights that come in and ruin our group and then jet off to something else. Like I said before I have not met Kevin nor have we spoken on the phone but, I have friends that have, friends that trust implicitly who state emphatically that Kevin is a man of his word. I believe that! Do not attack him and question him and then question him about his explanation about his integrity. That is not right and it is not fair.

Andrew Hinckley

[fpcopo]

I just want to add that Kevin's website is one of the most informative ones I've seen.
I think it is good of him to share these cars with us. Frank

[PxTx]

I may be the only one who feels this way, but I think this thread has been good for the group. Kind of like a system of checks and balances. I just hate to see all of this scrutiny keep people from posting. Gosh knows there are already more than a few guys "in the know" of these cars that refuse to post here.

The fact is, Kevin is are a powerful collector who's capable of finding some of the rarest cars as well as their supporting documentation. Not that I am revealing anything new here, but there are these "urban legends" that float around this board. You know... about the guy who got a hold of certain information about "Supercar X" and later made arrangements to purchase the car- which quickly becomes a fully documented and very desirable car.

I am myself, curious to know what Kevin found with Dan's VIN#. Would you mind sharing this info Kevin, or at least the steps you took if you couldn't find anything?

Just ask Marlin how nice it is to have someone find the supporting information to the supercar you own. I'm sure finally receiving his POP felt darn good. Surely we hope that if anyone uncovers additional info on our cars, they would choose to share it with the present owner.

None of us want to be the guy in the "urban legend" who unknowingly sells a car to someone holding the unobtainable supporting documentation for our car. The truth is what most of these stories are based upon and history will repeat itself. I think these guys are justifiably cautious. I feel that all of the concerns addressed here by both Dan and the Bowtie Gang are legitimate, and I do not fault them for openly expressing them.

I want to make it clear that I consider Dan a friend. Since I first met him, he too has been a person of integrity and quickly earned my respect. He is very supportive and enthusiastic to help when he can- provided he doesn't feel that he's being taken advantage of. I think it is a shame the way Dan has been attacked here. I find it much easier to relate to Dan and his position than Kevin's. Looking at it from Dan's perspective, he is justified. Hopefully those who know or support Dan have at least shared your support with him outside of this group.

For those who have never met Dan or disagree with him, challenging him to a face to face confrontation is not in any of our best interests as it only serves as instigation for additional conflict. I do support any type of gentleman like debate that may continue as it helps to define who each of us really is- probably better than any self written profile could.

Best regards to all,

Paul Tholey

[Belair62]

Paul I don't know Kevin,Bowtie Gang or Dan...I think part of the problem was the way things wer "typed" not spoken.Sometimes you can't tell whether the typed word comes off being cocky. Bowtie came off as kind of cocky in my opinion.Probably unintentional but thats what happens sometimes.I don't know Dan either...I asked him offline for a bit of info to identify a "real" big block 68 Chevy II because he knew what he was talking about on the subject.The response I got back offline was rather unusual.If you don't want to help someone out just say so or don't say anything.No need to make it personal.No one should have to kiss anyones a** around here to get info or help.Since most of us don't know each other personally, you can only base your impressions on responses posted.Lets move on now.......

[Edited by Belair62 (10-28-2001 at 07:09 PM).]