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Old 02-23-2007, 06:03 AM
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Default High Engine RPM Weakest Link

Got a question for you engine builders out there. What is the weakest link when building a high rpm big block...let's say 7000rpm range. My initial thought was the stroke, but I was told by another person that it was bore diameter because the larger the bore diameter the lower the natural frequency. I really don't want to go through all the calculations of shear stress and strain or for determining natural frequencies so I thought someone has to have lived it or have some working knowledge of this subject.
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:07 AM
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Default Re: High Engine RPM Weakest Link

I would say the valve train may be the weakest part.
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:01 AM
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Default Re: High Engine RPM Weakest Link

I would have to say rods. The bigger the bore the heaver the piston the more stress on the rods. 396s are turning 8,000 to 8,500 427 are in the high 7s. I have a L-88 coming off the Dyno this week or next and I'll let you know the HP range
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: High Engine RPM Weakest Link

I'm with Sam. Any big block we destroyed racing usually valve train started the distruction. Years ago stock engines were known for dropping valves.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: High Engine RPM Weakest Link

10 deg valve locks and good valve springs will stop that. Valve flutter is what drops valves
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Old 02-24-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: High Engine RPM Weakest Link

Agree 100%. I was referring to stock BBC. They ate valves.It was rare to see a rod failure come back to the shop unless stock bolts were used in the rods. Oil pump pick ups cost a lot of high rpm engines as did the plastic coupler on the pump drive shaft.That was years ago however not up on it today.
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: High Engine RPM Weakest Link

I will have to agree with valve train and rod bolts. I took a 454 LS6 out of a 3 year old Chevelle and changed the pistons, cam, springs, rod bolts and had that motor in three different Camaros over the years with only one rebuild. Shifted it at 7000 rpm and it went through the traps at 7000. Sold it to a guy in IL. One in a long line of my many big mistakes.
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Old 02-24-2007, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: High Engine RPM Weakest Link

In the L72 and L78 engines the valve springs couldn't keep the valve in contact with the valve train at much over 6K rpm. The valve would actually be free falling shut. Eventually the keepers would pound themselves through the retainer and you got a dropped valve and usually a broken block. That's how most L78s died. I must have had horse shoes as our L72 engine saw 6500 countless times. My racing buddy just shakes his head and cringes when I tell him the stories. I never heard of any bottom ends letting go in street use.
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Default Re: High Engine RPM Weakest Link

Keith,

What spring retainer, keeper, and spring combo's would you
recommend for a stock L/78? I'd like specifics if possible.
With all the $$ I have wrapped up in my current L/78 project,
I'd hate to drop a valve and trash my engine.

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Old 02-24-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: High Engine RPM Weakest Link

Steve, sent you a PM regarding parts.

...if weren't for weak valve springs, there wouldn't be so many CE motors

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